Malaysians have taken umbrage to the absence of 20 Pakatan Rakyat Parliamentarians at the third reading of the Dewan Rakyat recently where Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak's first Budget almost did not get passed when it barely got through by a 66-63 vote margin. For the first time, the national budget was approved with such a narrow margin. In parliamentary democracies, a budget that is not passed is equivalent to a vote of no confidence on the government.
This means PR LOST the chance to topple the BN government because the 20 missing PR Parliamentarians could have made a big difference to the outcome of votes. Read more about it HERE and how Tian Chua admitted HERE that it had been a 'planned mission'. To me, it is nothing but a SHAMEFUL and POORLY EXECUTED mission.
All over cyberspace, netizens are demanding for the names of those missing MPs and an apology or rationale for their absence. MPs know the schedule of meetings and are expected to adjust their personal appointments to attend the Dewan Rakyat - a duty expected of all elected representatives. Read more outbursts from Malaysia Today readers at THIS LINK.
This incident shows up the lackadaisical attitude of MPs on both sides of the divide. In short, things do not really look promising at all. Many of us voted for change via the Opposition but there does not seem to be a difference between the two sides safe that one is rolling deep in the grime of alleged corruption and racism. Is it a mistake then to hope that PR can steer the country to the change that we so badly need? Have we all been wasting our time, effort and hopes on PR?
Perhaps the time has come for Malaysians to create a ‘third force’ in Malaysian politics. By definition, it is the political coalition that offers an alternative to two major political parties - in this case, BN and PR.
Instead of banking on a two-party system, we may need an independent political organization that can play a watchdog role on the BN and Opposition government by focusing on developing and advocating reformative and transformative policy proposals. It can actively educate, agitate, organize and lobby to achieve the rakyat's agenda in many ways.
This Third Force can also tip the scale for the power struggle in the two-party system by emerging as a force to be reckoned with. Besides, once there is a third party in the picture, perhaps then BN and PR will be more serious at getting their act together to overcome inherent weaknesses and to reinvent themselves more effectively.
Sim Kwang Yang also wrote about this, in particular about the Sabah scene, AT THIS LINK. Pak Sako also blogged about this topic AT THIS LINK.
For instance, if PR wins in the next polls, the Third Force can unite and work with PR to strengthen its position and to ensure deliverables reach the rakyat. In the event that PR fails to perform, then the Third Force can flex its muscles and ask the PR to shape up failing which it can join BN. In this way, there is an automatic check for any abuse to keep a check on politicians and the political scene could be a more dynamic one as politicians are more likely to be on their toes lest they lose out to the other side.
During elections, a third force would support important third party candidates who have been carefully selected to utilize the option to run independent candidates. A third force would not depend on electoral politics as the sole means of advancing its agenda and winning support.
It could employ non-electoral strategies and tactics such as forums, dialogues, mobilizing or organizing around issues at the local, state and national level as a means of broadening its base to bring about real change via change agents or layman at the grass root level.
The Third Force can also creatively use the Internet to disseminate information, galvanize action and raise much needed funds for its success. All this sounds a tad idealistic because I do not really see a pool of leaders that display the vision, skill and capacity to lead the rakyat.
Realistically, a genuine third force is unlikely to emerge in the near future but I believe the third force must be kept alive as an ideology, as a possible alternative so that all political parties will not be complacent about ground support. Perhaps there could rise amongst the rakyat or NGOs a group which can develop the ideology of the third force to mobilise support. If the political scene does not improve, the idea of a third force has to gain momentum to come into existence, especially in situations when the unity of the nation is jeopardised, the economy starts stagnating and justice, integrity, transparency continue to be jeopardized or if corruption assumes endemic proportions.
The writing is on the wall and warning bells seems to have sounded for Pakatan Rakyat. The leaders had better ensure that they live up to their manifesto even before it is made public. There cannot be any more room for mistakes for if the electorate are fed up, there could be a swing to BN in the next election and by then, we would be doomed. So PR leaders, please wake up!!! We are counting on you for that breath of life to resuscitate and rejuvenate Malaysia.
You had better not let us down! We elected you to the seat of government and we can also vote you out!!
41 comments to DO WE NEED A THIRD FORCE?
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Anonymous wat's the difference : passed or NOT ? they'll still simply spend our hard-earned blooded money wat !!!!!
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nick It's an outrage, Sis! Malaysia could have had a new government this weekend and all Malaysian could be rejoicing unitedly!
Basically it's not the first time it happened, too! Looks like PKR, PAS and DAP MP's never did learnt their lesson. And looks like they need a lesson, a very hard lesson to be taught by the rakyat in the next GE.
I'm all for the third force, Sis. Bring it on and we'll teach those MP MP's and BN MP's too. We're paying them to serve us NOT to act as YB and going all VVIP on the people!.
TO ALL PR MP's..."BUCK UP OR WE'LL SEND YOU TO JOIN AAB AND TDM IN THE DUSTBIN OF MALAYSIAN HISTORY!"
Wishing you a pleasant day even though we could have a glorious day, Today!
Hamba
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Unknown Dear Anonymous @ 8.37a.m.
Be happy that you don't pay taxes because if you did, you would be very upset that some MPs are getting gaji buta paid by the rakyat's money.
Take care and have a nice day.
Salam
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Anonymous Both BN and PR seem to be playing political games. Parliament is a "gentleman's club". Disgusting.
I think a third force can be found in democratic socialism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism
"Democratic socialism is difficult to define, and groups of scholars have radically different definitions for the term. Some definitions simply refer to all forms of socialism that follow an electoral, reformist or evolutionary path to socialism, rather than a revolutionary one."
However, any form of socialism is perceived by the political right as a form of communism.
OTOH, what political philosophy does BN and PR subscribe to? It would be interesting to find out.
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Unknown Dear Anonymous @ 8.43 a.m.
How true!! It is sickening to see what is happening in our country!
But we must not give up hope even during such depressing times.
Take care and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Salam
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stephen If you ask me,the status quo will never change whether BN or PR wins.Eventually the rot will set in.
If PR wins, you will see the cracks and fissures widen between DAP and PAS as both parties have quite different objectives.These are odd bedfellows.PR will have a hard time trying to get everyone to work together leaving little time to run the country.
In the meantime, BN will definitely try to throw a spanner in the works by working on sensitive issues and they have the money and media on their side.
Quite frankly, I am not optimistic one little bit.
I am reminded by Ku Li who poignantly wrote about the squandered opportunities in oil revenues and the fact that by 2011, the country will be a net importer of oil!! That is worrying as even with oil, the country has not progressed as expected.
My dream team would have been Ku Li as PM and Tun Ismail as DPM.A shame it did not come true.Tun Ismail was the best statesman Malaysia has seen for a long time.
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Unknown Dear Nick
Agree! That is why I could not sleep till past 4 a.m. and spent over three hours writing this post...from past midnight. I was fuming and my blood was boiling!
What is wrong with the mentality of these leaders???? I really cannot fathom how they can take their attendance so lightly.
Preposterous!
Take care and you are right again - it has to be a pleasant day even though we could have been celebrating gloriously.
Salam
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Unknown Dear Anonymous @ 9.03a.m.
You are correct in saying re the perception of right-wing politicians about the third force.
In such a situation, I believe the third force offers a stable check system for the two parties. Otherwise, both sides will be complacent, big-headed and think it is their right to rule.
Interestingly, both parties have never voiced their party philosophy except for the usual trite statements about development etc.
At the rate some leaders open their gap without thinking about what they are saying and the impact, perhaps they only understand the philosophy of greed :-(.
Thanks for sharing your thought-provoking comment.
Have a nice day.
Salam
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Anonymous NOT because i suka bayar cukai ...
aku TAK layak la = pendapatan sikit saja ....sob !
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Unknown Dear Stephen
Much as I hate to admit it, the situation seems to be quite dismal. Although PR seems to be an option, it is a choice of the devil or the deep blue sea for us. The most evil man of this country single-handedly destroyed this nation. First he plundered the resources of the country. Next, he destroyed the education system. Thirdly, he set the gravy train a-running and injected others with his poison of corruption. Fourthly, the whole value system in our country has disintegrated and this has had an impact on the mentality of Malaysians. Fifthly, our national identity seems to be a fuzzy concept. Sixthly, let us not forget that former UMNO members joined a particular party and brought along their emotional baggage. Seventhly, there is the long lasting differences between other component parties. Eighthly,. we must consider the plight and scenario of East Malaysians which are not that easy to solve given the long history of the rule of the white-haired rajah and the problem of illegal immigrants in Sabah. Also, you have highlighted a very pertinent problem that the BN will not give up even if they are ousted.
With that, I believe we have a tough road to travel.
Ku Li had his chance and it is a tragedy that the man who should rule cannot..and the ones who SHOULD NOT are in the seat of power. Yes, Tun Ismail was a great statesman but he had such a short term of service.
We really need divine intervention and a revolution of the mind in Malaysia for change to happen!
Thanks for sharing. Take care and have a nice day.
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Nameless Fool Whenever I read anything that stands for 'third political force in Malaysia', my mind immediately snaps to Romance of the Three Kingdoms. The Dynasty Warriors game gave me the gist, but I should get the novel myself. Long ago. :P
Elistan, cleric of Paladine, said that evil has a tendency to turn upon itself, and while evil is busy sorting out its own, the good shall build forces upon hopes and dreams, and rise up.
Again, one of the things I remember from the first Dragonlance trilogy...
What's more, some antagonists are not really evil, but merely misguided. Yet at times I, the reader, would hate the misguided for making it hard for protagonists to serve the cause of good.
The misguided would likely drift to evil, but it is always hoped that they will drift in the other direction.
Maybe I should write a parallel between the Three Kingdoms and Malaysia. Just for fun - but there's no chance I'll post it on Fanfiction.Net .
Hope Malaysia will see better days,
Nerdcore Fishfoot.
P.S: I'll be off to Australia this evening. It's a night flight :)
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Unknown Dear Anonymous @ 9.25a.m.
Jangan risau. Carilah pekerjaan yang lain seperti jawatan part-time pada waktu malam. Saudara/saudari pun juga boleh belajar lagi untuk mendapat keupayaan dalam bidang yang lain agar mendapat gaji yang lebih tinggi dengan benefit yang baik juga.
Never give up...As long as there is breath left in you, always try and never say 'die'.
I wish you all the best and may the Almighty guide and bless you in ways that you never imagined.
Have a good day!
Salam
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Unknown Hi Nerdcore
You never cease to amaze me with your very mature comments that do not reveal your tender age. Can I adopt you??? :-)
Like you, I intend to buy the unabridged version of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms". I have only read the comic version and watched the movies. Better still, I wish I could read it in Mandarin but that will never happen because I am hopeless in Mandarin.
Wise words you have shared with us from Dragonlance...Have not read that trilogy.
I do agree that some antagonists are not evil but misguided and perhaps clueless too because of the failure of our society to correctly impart the right values as many socialization agents have failed miserably in this area, teaching warped values and distortions of truth and reality.
I believe that external forces seem to be more powerful than the inner voice that is fading out. Many lack conscience and many do not have a collective conscience.
To be honest, I have scrounged many social theories in a futile bid to understand the fragmentation of our society and to date, have not found any answer and I am certainly very saddened.
Please write that parallel. I would love to read it.
I do wish, hope and pray for better days in our country but...
Here's wishing you a lovely holiday down under. Take care and please keep in touch.
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Unknown No, I do not agreed thrid force unless it's break out from BN.
If 3rd force is out today, it's means PR will become weaker. PR may lost a lot of seats to BN in GE13 if 3rd force taken away 10-20% of votes from both BN & PR. At the end, BN is still control federal government, we will continue suffer, and it's may be the starting of doom of Malaysia.
We still need to support PR to topple BN in GE 13. When BN is no more control federal government, BN may break and come out 3rd force. Then, we RAKYAT can really become the BOSS of Malaysia.
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Unknown Dear Chong
You have made a very good point there. Thank you.
Actually, I am sure many are aware that within UMNO itself, there is apparently an unseen force that is influencing the words and actions of some leaders. Perhaps that is why we see conflicting statements coming from leaders of the same party!
When I wrote the post, I had in mind laymen to make up the third force and not anyone from any other party. Being an idealist at heart, I believe that if capable laymen were to stride forward and take up the challenge to lead, perhaps there could be a breath of fresh air blowing in our country that can revive us.
While we agree the common foe is BN, I hope that PR realizes that it has to rise to the occasion to avoid a backlash from the voters who might vote against them the same way as they voted against the BN in GE12.
Like you, I look forward to that day when the rakyat can really be the boss of our country.
Take care and thanks for sharing your wise thoughts.
Do keep in touch. Have a nice day.
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QQ I really regret the lackadaisical attitude of the MPs, especially those from the Pakatan Rakyat.
It should serve as a warning to them. Never, never take things for granted!
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QQ How true! I was fuming and my blood was boiling too!
To those 'gaji buta' MP, please listen :
Anyone who wants to be victorious without struggling, anyone who wants something but does not want the means, is a fool in people's eyes!
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Unknown Dear QQ
Thanks for swinging by twice to share your comment. I empathize with you and other Malaysians who feel this way. Indeed, things are coming to a head and it seems like a mad jungle now and only the fittest will survive. What we see is a situation where the ones who should fight are taking it easy and the ones who should retire and fighting tooth and nail for what does not belong to them. Very depressing.
Anyway, let us continue to hope for the best that the PR reps have learnt their lesson and will pull up their socks to make right what went wrong.
Take care and have a good day!
Best wishes
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QQ Let us stand up for what is right! Unless we take a strict stance towards wrongdoing, we cannot foster people of character and integrity.
Let us meet again in high spirits!
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Unknown Very well put, QQ. Thanks for the exhortation to keep up the good fight. Yes, let's march forward!
Cheers
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Anonymous SHAME SHAME SHAME ON PAKATAN
Those absentees should offer their apologies. PERIOD!
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clearwater The 3rd Force. Once upon a time, Gerakan could have played that role. Not now, however, with their leaders infected with the BN virus and having forsaken their ideals. Yes, it is an idea to be cherished. Politicians have to be kept honest, they can't do it themselves.
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Kenneth Yes, let's forge ahead boldly and exuberantly and put up a good fight. Hopefully, our victory will be a symbol of Hope and Inspiration for countless others!
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me What's the point of a Third Force without electoral reform? Gerrymandering and its ilk will only have a third force become half a force, with PR constituting the other half and BN remaining whole.
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Unknown Dear Anonymous @ 5.05 p.m.,
Agree!! I have been surfing the net but have yet to find any report/statement from those absentees that offer an apology/reason for their absence. Very disappointing indeed!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Dear Clearwater,
From a party that used to command respect and a following, Gerakan is not even a shadow of what it used to be. Indeed you are right. It could have played the role of the Third Force but alas, its infected condition has crippled it from being anything more than a toothless ageing lion.
An independent watchdog must keep a tab on these politicians to prevent them from stepping out of line and to remind them that the rakyat care the ones who put them there!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Dear Kenneth,
Thanks for standing with the rest of us who will persevere to see a new dawn in Malaysia. We have to keep up the good fight and inspire others, just as we have been inspired by many unsung heroes both in our land and in other nations.
Take care and do keep in touch.
Best wishes
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Unknown Dear 'me',
Thanks for highlighting a very pertinent point. There is a good article at the Malaysian Bar website AT THIS LINK that is worth a read.
I hope that Malaysians who uphold values such as honesty, justice, integrity etc. will be appointed to the EC to moot the much needed change and to ensure an effective Election Watch to prevent gerrymandering etc so that the elected ones will be those who were voted in by the rakyat.
Thanks for sharing your ideas. Take care and do keep in touch.
Best wishes
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Unknown Dear Uncle Zorro,
Thanks for the encouraging comment and more importantly, for posting the list.
Take care and God bless.
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Anonymous Do we need a 3rd force? 100% no!
Never in the history of Malaysian politics have we come this close to closing down the BN government. You mean you are prepared to throw this all away just because some opposition MPs never came to town to vote down the Budget Bill? The bloody Budget will be passed anyway, whether it is today or one month later. We just don't have enough MPs to put it away permanently. THIS must be clearly understood!
Sure, like you, I'm disappointed too. But just because RPK said some F word and you get all worked up and screaming for blood? Come on.
Let's not get too judgmental about this issue of the 20 missing MPs. True, it would have been great to have denied BN the vote, but this f**king bill would be passed anyways.
Instead of thinking of a "third" force, we should consolidate PR's strength by unconditionally supporting them until such time BN is out of the job. THEN, we'll watch PR like a hawk.
Let's not lose our focus.
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Unknown Dear Anonymous @ 8.21p.m.
Thanks so much for your honest and sincere comment which I am sure, comes from a sincere heart that wants to topple BN.
Frankly, I had been thinking about the whole idea of the Third Force since last Saturday night as this subject was raised during a dinner after which, my friends and I discussed the different aspects and implications - including the impact of the internet as the third force So, I wrote this post not because of RPK's post.
To me, like many other Malaysians, I felt that if this budget was voted down, it would seriously dent N's image and plan. Also, it would boost the people's confidence in PR, which at the moment is facing some issues as can be seen by reports in various news portals.
At the same time, I recognize that 77% of PR MPs attended the meeting compared to 48% of BN's MPs. I did not make a big thing of it because it is good news to the rest of us that there is such a high absent rate.
I am certainly not throwing in the towel where PR is concerned but till this point of time, I believe only 3 PAS reps have explained their absence.
In the light of the brouhaha over this, surely the PR parties should have some crisis Public relations management exercise i.e. in issuing a press statement abt the issue. I just received a PKR press release and it is not abt this. Now, such silence does not augur well for their image.
My concern is not to raise a hue and cry but to alert PR leaders that they had better think before they speak e.g. Tian Chua's 'planned mission' admission which makes us wonder why he did not ensure a higher turnout, granted that some (not sure how many) had legitimate reasons to be away.
I opine that PR leaders must consolidate their position because such incidents do not do much for people's perception of their leadership.
It is true - even if there is a vote of no-confidence, the bill would be passed. But in all sincerity, I believe we should watch PR like a hawk NOW to ensure that they can win with a bigger margin in the next GE and still watch them after they win...
They always have my support and focus.
Thanks so much for raising pertinent issues and for widening the scope of this post. I appreciate your comment and hope you will keep in touch.
Together, let's give PR our support and march on despite these hiccups.
Best wishes
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Anonymous Dear MWS,
I'm anonymous @8.21. (a.k.a StraightTalking)
Thank you for your comments. You made two good observations - One, denying BNs's vote, if only temporary, would boost confidence among PR voters that indeed BN is not made of steel. And, two, that we should hawk over PR now as well.
Right now, PR is like an adolescent with raging hormones and we are like its parent. Whether PR will grow up to become a fine young man (or young lady, ahem!) or decline to a leg-shaking, drug-taking, does-nothing son-of-a-bitch is enirely up to us as its parent.
One other thing before I go, if Tian Chua is in the money market business, he would not be a good "raider". I'll give him a "D+" scorecard. I recommend he reads more on Sun-Tsu's Art of War as punishment.
Warmest regards
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Unknown Dear Anonymous @ 8.21p.m., 9.24p.m. a.k.a. StraightTalking,
Thanks for swinging by again to check for my response to your comment. My appreciation to you also for your warm response to what I wrote.
Your observation is right and you have effectively used the right analogy to pinpoint the teething issues of PR. We have to give them a lot of feedback and not feed their ego like what BN supporters do ...so that they will always be in touch with reality and on their toes. No time to take chances for they have to act now and if they lose in the next GE...we are really doomed.
Tian Chua, and all of us, need wisdom and to be think before we speak. A good example would be N and H on the recent ethics issues.
I seriously believe PR needs Public Relations experts that can rally to offer them free consultation.
Take care and do keep in touch.
Warmest wishes,
mws
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katdog Lets be fair to the PR MP's. Some had perfectly valid excuses. LGE was on a trade mission with MIDA in US. Gobindh Singh Deo has been banned from attending parliamentary proceedings. Kapar PKR had been called away by police for investigation.
PR MP's are not exactly in an enviable position as many hold both state and parliament seats due lack of candidates during the 2008 elections. Many have state functions to attend to as well as parliament debates.
And in truth, Malaysian parliamentary debates is just for show. BN with its near total dominance of parliament for 50 years have rendered parliamentary votes as nothing more than a formality.
That's why on the BN side, you see more than 50% of their MP's absent. Even Najib didn't bother to make himself present for something as important as a parliamentary debate on our nations budget. He created the budget, but he didn't care to make himself available for questioning by parliament with regards to the budget. This shows the scant regard of the executive on parliament.
Plus i have the suspicion that the speaker normally 'allows' enough time for BN MP's to make it back to parliament before calling for the vote. So no i don't believe we will see the opposition win any votes as the speaker can delay the voting until enough BN MP's arrive.
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Unknown Dear Katdog
Thank you for your fair and up to date comment. I appreciate the time you took to share your insightful thoughts and do agree with your views although I must confess I did not give any thought to the scenario in the last part of your comment until you alerted me. That is the beauty of having an open and lively forum to discuss and share views :-).
However, what I find quite disconcerting would be:
a) the lack of an official explanation from the parties concerned
b) the admission by Tian Chua that it was a 'planned mission'
c) the silence on the part of PR to execute damage control.
I believe the time has come for MPs to really be able to debate on issues instead of just raising hands or making a fool of themselves like what some had been doing with silly remarks.
Take care and do keep in touch.
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roxy We need a third force. These two parties are getting too arrogant. There should be someone new to provoke them. This new party should not take in any of the PKR or BN members. Otherwise there is no point of it.
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Anonymous Hello ,
Politicians are basically hypocrites, self serving or serves the Party that allows their existence .
Look at the politicians who quit to jump to another Party , look at the MCA ones ,when they don't get things their way .
All the MP's from both divide should have been there to cast their votes. Sabotaging the Budget just to embarass the BN govt is a short sighted gamble .
I have lost my faith with the PR as they are have proven to be just as ' false ' as the BN leadership . Once you have cast your votes , they will shortchange you and do things their way , and not necessarily what were in their manifesto.
They make such a big cry about the National Budget , but they have failed to even look at the Municipality budgets. The MBPJ budget is one example ... the RM260 million budget was passed by PR councillors in less than 45 minutes with so little debate into the extravagant expenditure items .They failed in their KPI's.
Letters were written to the PR MP;s , to Anwar Ibrahim , and MB , but they just chose to shut their eyes & ears .
It is a laugh that they want to try to correct the Macro issues when they elect to ignore or fail to attend to the Micro issues .
It is the micro issues at Munipality issues that affect the day to day matters of us all .
We need a third force of INDEPENDENTS to run for the State seats , and FORCE either the BN or PR to pay attention to the electorate . Examples : Munipality elections so that rate payers can have a say how their money are prudently spent .
Anyone want to run as Independent
in the next GE ?
jtba
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semuanya OK kot BN would love this idea. We need a third force like we need "a bullet in the head". As demonstrated at by-elections, intra-party politics etc., it means splitting the enemy.
PR is facing all-out trench warfare against every heroic effort. For e.g., the "KPI for courts" will hobble those who are trying to do 10 things at once. PR has very limited funds. If any of its soldiers shows any weakness, he is eliminated with money or force. Meanwhile we have selfish bigoted citizens who are too dumb to realize that their vast wealth is being looted while the society and environment are destroyed - who can't even bother to vote but reserve their right to pontficate. Forget Climate Change; these are people who don't even realize that they are being flooded waist-deep needlessly every year.
Even if the Bill was defeated, do you think BN would have the honour and conscience to step down? Even if it was a specific no-confidence Bill?
Tenku Razaleigh should stop dreaming about "Third Force", admit that scrapping Semangat was his greatest blunder, and join those fighting the good fight.
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Unknown Dear Roxy, Anonymous @ 9.59am and Semuanya OK kot,
Thanks for sharing your ideas and thoughts.
I think at the mean time, the third force should just exist as a watchdog and an entity to keep the parties in check for if it were to be a political party, it would take votes away fr PR and that would be disastrous as many have rightly pointed out.
Anonymous @ 9.59am and Semuanya Kot Ok have pointed out some pertinent issues and it is worth discussing in another post or with your ADUNs/MPs.
Take care and have a good evening...
Best wishes
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Anonymous Semuanya OK is right. Having a thrid force is like shooting ourselves, not in the foort, but right between our eyes.
I'll be blunt, those who are thinking of creating a third force are either stupid, or still unsure of wanting to put away UMNO/BN.
For Malaysians to live happily ever after, UMNO/BN must be buried 100 feet underground.
And Pakatan Rakyat is that weapon and our only weapon. We must keep sharpening this weapon and use it for the mother of all elections - GE13!
And UMNO/BN will be buried forever.
StraightTalking
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Unknown Dear StraightTalking,
You really live up to your nom de plume :-). Thanks for your succinct and powerful comment.
I agree with you.
Take care and have a good weekend.
Best wishes
Anonymous @#$%^&* ! DAMN...the income tax dept sent me a surat : ' dengan sukacita , anda tidak layak membayar cukai .....'
@#$%^&*...DAMN...my income is TOO small to be taxed ...DAMN !!